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Old 08.03.2004, 18:52
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Two questions:

1 Editing for the UEFA Cup competition:

I am trying to edit the International Teams and Tournaments file with respect to the UEFA Cup (Andreas calls it the "Euro Cup") in his files.

My question is whether anyone has tried to make the game add the 8 third-place teams from the Champions League Group Stage (Andreas calls the "Champions Cup") into the UEFA Cup thrid round, just like in real life.
I cannot determine what lines to write to make this happen.

Also, Andreas, can you explain what is the meaning of the lines I have in bold that read "draw 14" and "no exclude . . . " , which is found in the beginning of your EURO Cup tournament (in the international teams/tour file):

* EURO Cup
+ reputation 17
+ international
+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 97-160
+ week 15 17
#+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 1-160
+ exclude "European Champions League"
+ draw 14
+ noexclude add 42 rank 31 "European Champions League Qualification 3

2. Adding a nation

If I add a nation but do not list any clubs inside of that nation, I know that they will not have any players listed on their national squad.

But I can create players inside of the game and then assign them to the computer. Is there a limit on how many players I can create?
OR,
is it better to create the players I want to use on the national team by writing them in to the team file which will be placed in the Data/Teams folder? Just like we can do ino order to define the players on a particular team, like Hamburg or any other club.

Another way to ask this is to ask, Will AOCS recognize a defined list of players for a national team?

Tough questions but it would be good to know...
Thanks again Andreas

Ken
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Old 08.03.2004, 19:55
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To question 1:

draw 14 means that the draw will made in week 14..

exclude means 'do not add teams who play in that cup'
noexclude is a flag that deactives the exclude setting for the current line. Which means the following: usually teams from the Champions Cup may not be added in the EURO Cup because else all the teams who play in the Champions Cup would play in the EURO Cup as well. But in the noexclude line teams should be added which play in the Champions Cup which usually would be filtered out by the exclude setting.

I think adding the third place teams in the EURO Cup should work. But it's quite tricky. You need to find out when the last round of the Champions Cup is played and add them in the correct week (so that both competitions run synced), it's very very tricky and you have to experiment a lot until it will work I fear.

To question 2:

Players which don't play at a club which is loaded when you create a new game won't be loaded in the game. I would recommend to create a dummy team in the International teams and tournaments file like:

! AdditionalCountry "MyNation"
! TempNames "data/names/England_1st.txt" "data/names/England_2nd.txt"
+ reputation 15
MyNationsTeam

When you list the MyNationsTeam in the international teams and tournaments file it means the team is always loaded whenever you include the international teams and tournaments in your game. (This is the only reason for the team list in that file.)

And then create a team file MyNationsTeam.txt in the data/team/ folder and put the players in that file as in other team files. That's what I would do. I don't know, maybe you can just create a file called 'MyNation.txt' and put the players in that file? But I've never tried that and can't say if it works. (But it's risky because it's possible to get players twice in the game when you add them to the nation file _and_ to a team file.)

When you create players inside of the game the player limit shouldn't become a problem. There's a limit of 16 (I think? was it 16?) human players but the total limit of human & computer players is 30.000 I think. So that should also work.

The easiest of course is to put them into a team file that already exists (if you want them to play at that team as well).

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Another way to ask this is to ask, Will AOCS recognize a defined list of players for a national team?
Try it and tell us your experiences
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Old 10.03.2004, 17:43
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Default Follow up on Editing UEFA Cup

Well, my second attempt to integrate the thrid place teams from the Group Stage of the Champions League into the UEFA Cup did not work. (The first attempt was my fault as I did not have Qualification 3 of Champions League played by the time of the draw for UEFA Cup, but I discovered and fixed that.)

To try to get the UEFA Cup to add the 8 thrid-place teams into the UEFA Cup, I used the following lines inside of the *UEFA Cup tournament which is of course part of Andreas' International Teams and Tournaments File (we will call this the "ITT File" for short) Note that I renamed the EURO Cup to its correct name, the UEFA Cup. The lines I used to try to add the 8 third-place teams from Champions League are in bold:

* UEFA Cup
+ reputation 17
+ international
+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 97-160
+ week 11 12
+ exclude "European Champions League"
+ draw 10
+ noexclude add 42 rank 31 "European Champions League Qualification 3"
+ <43 add 1 cup-winner "Spain Cup Final"
+ <43 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <44 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <45 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <46 add 1 cup-winner "Italy Cup Final"
+ <46 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <47 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <48 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <49 add 1 cup-winner "Germany Cup Final"
+ <49 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <50 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <51 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <52 add 1 cup-winner "France Cup Final"
+ <52 add 1 from "France"
+ <53 add 1 from "France"
+ <54 add 1 from "France"
# if there are less than 13 teams until this point (there should be currently 12)
# add the most successful team of the England Cup Final = winner of the England Cup
# the format is "<cup name> <round name>"
+ <55 add 1 cup-winner "England Cup Final"
# if there are still less than 13 teams (that means there was no cup winner to add)
# take a team from the league
+ <55 add 1 from "England"
# if also the winner of the league cup should play the cup uncomment:
# + <14 add 1 cup-winner "England League-Cup Final"
+ <56 add 1 from "England"
+ <57 add 1 from "England"
+ <58 add 1 cup-winner "Holland Cup Final"
+ <58 add 1 from "Holland"
+ <59 add 1 from "Holland"
+ <60 add 1 from "Holland"
+ <61 add 1 cup-winner "Russia Cup Final"
+ <61 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <62 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <63 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <64 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <65 add 1 cup-winner "Czech Republic Cup Final"
+ <65 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <66 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <67 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <68 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <69 add 1 cup-winner "Greece Cup Final"
+ <69 add 1 from "Greece"
+ <70 add 1 from "Greece"
+ <71 add 1 cup-winner "Portugal Cup Final"
+ <71 add 1 from "Portugal"
+ <72 add 1 from "Portugal"
+ <73 add 1 cup-winner "Turkey Cup Final"
+ <73 add 1 from "Turkey"
+ <74 add 1 from "Turkey"
+ <75 add 1 cup-winner "Ukraine Cup Final"
+ <75 add 1 from "Ukraine"
+ <76 add 1 from "Ukraine"
+ <77 add 1 cup-winner "Norway Cup Final"
+ <77 add 1 from "Norway"
+ <78 add 1 from "Norway"
+ <79 add 1 cup-winner "Switzerland Cup Final"
+ <79 add 1 from "Switzerland"
+ <80 add 1 from "Switzerland"
+ <81 add 1 cup-winner "Scotland Cup Final"
+ <81 add 1 from "Scotland"
+ <82 add 1 from "Scotland"
+ <83 add 1 cup-winner "Austria Cup Final"
+ <83 add 1 from "Austria"
+ <84 add 1 from "Austria"
+ <85 add 1 from "Austria"
+ <86 add 1 cup-winner "Belgium Cup Final"
+ <86 add 1 from "Belgium"
+ <87 add 1 from "Belgium"
+ <88 add 1 from "Belgium"
+ <89 add 1 cup-winner "Denmark Cup Final"
+ <89 add 1 from "Denmark"
+ <90 add 1 from "Denmark"
+ <91 add 1 from "Denmark"
+ <92 add 1 cup-winner "Poland Cup Final"
+ <92 add 1 from "Poland"
+ <93 add 1 from "Poland"
+ <94 add 1 from "Poland"
+ <95 add 1 cup-winner "Romania Cup Final"
+ <95 add 1 from "Romania"
+ <96 add 1 from "Romania"
+ <97 add 1 from "Romania"
+ <98 add 1 cup-winner "Croatia Cup Final"
+ <98 add 1 from "Croatia"
+ <99 add 1 from "Croatia"
+ <100 add 1 from "Croatia"
+ <101 add 1 cup-winner "Sweden Cup Final"
+ <101 add 1 from "Sweden"
+ <102 add 1 from "Sweden"
+ <103 add 1 cup-winner "Hungary Cup Final"
+ <103 add 1 from "Hungary"
+ <104 add 1 from "Hungary"
+ <105 add 1 cup-winner "Israel Cup Final"
+ <105 add 1 from "Israel"
+ <106 add 1 from "Israel"
+ <107 add 1 cup-winner "Slovakia Cup Final"
+ <107 add 1 from "Slovakia"
+ <108 add 1 from "Slovakia"
+ <109 add 1 from "Slovakia"
+ <110 add 1 cup-winner "Slovenia Cup Final"
+ <110 add 1 from "Slovenia"
+ <111 add 1 from "Slovenia"
+ <112 add 1 cup-winner "Cyprus Cup Final"
+ <112 add 1 from "Cyprus"
+ <113 add 1 from "Cyprus"
+ <114 add 1 cup-winner "Serbia-Montenegro Cup Final"
+ <114 add 1 from "Serbia-Montenegro"
+ <115 add 1 from "Serbia-Montenegro"
+ <116 add 1 cup-winner "Bulgaria Cup Final"
+ <116 add 1 from "Bulgaria"
+ <117 add 1 from "Bulgaria"
+ <118 add 1 cup-winner "Georgia Cup Final"
+ <118 add 1 from "Georgia"
+ <119 add 1 from "Georgia"
+ <120 add 1 cup-winner "Latvia Cup Final"
+ <120 add 1 from "Latvia"
+ <121 add 1 from "Latvia"
+ <122 add 1 cup-winner "Finland Cup Final"
+ <122 add 1 from "Finland"
+ <123 add 1 from "Finland"
+ <124 add 1 from "Finland"
+ <125 add 1 cup-winner "Belarus Cup Final"
+ <125 add 1 from "Belarus"
+ <126 add 1 from "Belarus"
+ <127 add 1 from "Belarus"
+ <128 add 1 cup-winner "Moldova Cup Final"
+ <128 add 1 from "Moldova"
+ <129 add 1 from "Moldova"
+ <130 add 1 cup-winner "Macedonia Cup Final"
+ <130 add 1 from "Macedonia"
+ <131 add 1 from "Macedonia"
+ <132 add 1 cup-winner "Lithuania Cup Final"
+ <132 add 1 from "Lithuania"
+ <133 add 1 from "Lithuania"
+ <134 add 1 cup-winner "Ireland Cup Final"
+ <134 add 1 from "Ireland"
+ <135 add 1 from "Ireland"
+ <136 add 1 cup-winner "Estonia Cup Final"
+ <136 add 1 from "Estonia"
+ <137 add 1 from "Estonia"
+ <138 add 1 cup-winner "Wales Cup Final"
+ <138 add 1 from "Wales"
+ <139 add 1 from "Wales"
+ <140 add 1 cup-winner "Armenia Cup Final"
+ <140 add 1 from "Armenia"
+ <141 add 1 from "Armenia"
+ <142 add 1 cup-winner "Iceland Cup Final"
+ <142 add 1 from "Iceland"
+ <143 add 1 from "Iceland"
+ <144 add 1 cup-winner "Northern Ireland Cup Final"
+ <144 add 1 from "Northern Ireland"
+ <145 add 1 from "Northern Ireland"
+ <146 add 1 cup-winner "Malta Cup Final"
+ <146 add 1 from "Malta"
+ <147 add 1 from "Malta"
+ <148 add 1 cup-winner "Faroe Islands Cup Final"
+ <148 add 1 from "Faroe Islands"
+ <149 add 1 from "Faroe Islands"
+ <150 add 1 cup-winner "Luxembourg Cup Final"
+ <150 add 1 from "Luxembourg"
+ <151 add 1 from "Luxembourg"
+ <152 add 1 cup-winner "Azerbaijan Cup Final"
+ <152 add 1 from "Azerbaijan"
+ <153 add 1 from "Azerbaijan"
+ <154 add 1 cup-winner "Liechtenstein Cup Final"
+ <154 add 1 from "Liechtenstein"
+ <155 add 1 from "Liechtenstein"
+ <156 add 1 cup-winner "Albania Cup Final"
+ <156 add 1 from "Albania"
+ <157 add 1 from "Albania"
+ <158 add 1 from "Bosnia-Herzegovina"
+ <159 add 1 from "Andorra"
+ <160 add 1 from "San Marino"
+ round 2 "Opening Round" 1-128
+ week 13 14
+ round 3 "First round" 1-64
+ week 16 18
+ round 4 "Second round" 1-32
+ week 22 24
+ round 5 "Third round" 1-24
+ week 30 32
+ draw 25
+ noexclude add 8 rank 17 "European Champions League Group stage"

# + add 8 rank 17 "Europeans Champions League Group stage"
+ round 6 "Fourth Round" 1-12
+ week 35 37
+ round 7 "Quarter final" 1-6
+ week 39 41
+ round 8 "Half final" 2-3
+ week 43 45
+ round 9 "Final" 1-2
+ week 47

What happened during the test?
Almost everything worked fine until it came time to add the 8 Champions League teams. (The only slight problem is that FC Basel and Borussia Dortmund were for some reason added to UEFA Cup when they had already qualified for the Champions League. I do not have an explanation for this.

The Champions League Group Stage was ended on week 24. And also the UEFA Cup round that reduced the field from 32 to 16 teams you can see was also finished on week 24. In week 25 I have a line for a draw in UEFA Cup. What happened was that 8 of the losers from the "Second Round" of UEFA cup stayed in the tournament, and no Champions League teams were added.

Andreas, I can email you my saved game file but I do not have a zip application and the file is quite large.
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What do you think?

Ken :?:
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Old 10.03.2004, 18:04
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Andreas, the line you have in UEFA cup that reads:
* UEFA Cup
+ reputation 17
+ international
+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 97-160
+ week 11 12
+ exclude "European Champions League"
+ draw 10
+ noexclude add 42 rank 31 "European Champions League Qualification 3"

In the noexclude flag, shouldn't it read "noexclude 42 rank 33 and not 31? Here is why I think so: If you follow the text lines in Champions League, you know that 10 teams survive Qualification 1 and move to Qualification 2. They are joined by the 18 teams defined for Qual. 2 to make 28. Of that 14 win and move to Qualification 3 where they combine with the 18 teams defined for Qual. 3 to make 32 teams. Of that, 16 win and move to the group stage along with the 16 automatic qualifiers. So if I understand you correctly, in the noexlude line you are asking the game to take 42 teams that had been trying to qualify for Champions League, beginning with the team ranked 31. But this could explain why 2 of my Champions League teams also were placed in UEFA Cup, since team ranked 31 and 32 would be in the Group Stage of the Champions League. I think this line should read "42 rank 33", so that the teams brought in to UEFA Cup begin with the team ranked 33rd in the Champions League after the Qualification 3. ????

This is difficult, but I like challenges.

Ken
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Old 10.03.2004, 23:53
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+ round 4 "Second round" 1-32
+ week 22 24
+ round 5 "Third round" 1-24
+ week 30 32
+ draw 25
+ noexclude add 8 rank 17 "European Champions League Group stage"
# + add 8 rank 17 "Europeans Champions League Group stage"
+ round 6 "Fourth Round" 1-12
+ week 35 37
+ round 7 "Quarter final" 1-6
+ week 39 41
+ round 8 "Half final" 2-3
+ week 43 45
+ round 9 "Final" 1-2
+ week 47
One thing I can see wrong here already is that you have 6 teams instead of 8 in the quarter finals- the second round should be teams `1-48, not teams 1-32.
Keep posting about your success, as I thought about trying to get this to work myself, but didn't have the patience
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Old 10.03.2004, 23:56
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Also, in the original EURO cup set-up, as in your UEFA cup set-up, all the losers from the Champions League Qualifying rounds 1-3 go into the UEFA/EURO cup, when it should be just the losers of QR 3- I've set this up on mine in the correct way, I'll cut & paste tommorow to show you how
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Old 11.03.2004, 18:09
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Default Editing UEFA Cup: 2nd attempt

Thank you JZ for your reply and comments. Well, yes I knew that I will have to change the formatting because in my example I end up with 6 teams when it is better to have 8. But I thought that first I would concentrate on getting the game to add the 8 Third-place Champions League teams and then I would worry about that adjustment. But thank you for your picking this flaw up.

Yes, please post your UEFA Cup set up. I didn't realize that only the losers of Champions League Qualifiying Round 3 actually go into the UEFA Cup. I had copied what Andreas originally had in his international file. Would love to see your UEFA Cup format...

Here are my experiences from last night's attempt to edit UEFA Cup:
I changed a couple of lines and am happy to report that no teams that had qualified for the Champions League Group stage were also placed in UEFA Cup. The line change was in the UEFA Cup setup and was as follows:

* UEFA Cup
+ reputation 17
+ international
+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 97-160
+ week 11 12
+ exclude "European Champions League"
+ draw 10
+ noexclude add 40 rank 33 "European Champions League Qualification 3"

The only problem with this line would be as JZ has noted that all losers from Champions League qualifying rounds 1 to 3 (a total of 40 teams) are placed in the UEFA Cup tournament... but I was not actually as concerned about that.

Then the lines I had are adjusted:

+ <41 add 1 cup-winner "Spain Cup Final"
+ <41 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <42 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <43 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <44 add 1 cup-winner "Italy Cup Final"
+ <44 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <45 add 1 from "Italy"
AND SO ON UNTIL YOU HAVE 160 TEAMS... I will eventually verify on the UEFA.com web site to see exactly how they determine the teams.. JZ maybe you already know the answer to this.

Adding the 8 Third-place teams from C.L. Group State - Results:

Again, I was not successful in having the game add the 8 teams that finished 3rd in C.L. Group Stage into the UEFA Cup. I used the following lines in the UEFA cup tournament:
+ round 2 "Opening Round" 1-128
+ week 13 14
+ round 3 "First round" 1-64
+ week 16 18
+ round 4 "Second round" 1-32
+ week 22 24
+ round 5 "Third round" 1-24
+ week 30 32
+ noexclude add 8 rank 17 "European Champions League Group stage"

+ round 6 "Fourth Round" 1-12
+ week 35 37
+ round 7 "Quarter final" 1-6
+ week 39 41
+ round 8 "Half final" 2-3
+ week 43 45
+ round 9 "Final" 1-2
+ week 47

Once again, I had the Chmapions League group stage ending on week 24.
When it came time for the Third Round of the UEFA Cup, the game refused to add the 8 teams from the Champions League. Instead, to make the field of 24, the game used 8 of the losers from the prior round of the UEFA Cup. Maybe I could try using an "add" line, but I have another idea...

IDEA: Separate the UEFA Cup so that it exists as if it were 2 separate tournaments. This is in a way how Andreas handles the Qualification for the World Cup and the EURO 2004 tournaments. Look at those sections of the international file for guidance. I am thinking that I set up the UEFA Cup so that the "Qualification" rounds are one tournament and the top 24 teams after the second round are added to the "second UEFA Cup" along with the 8 third place Champions League teams. I hope to have some time to experiment tonight and will report my results, as well as the actual text lines I am using. I think it will be clearer to see if I post the lines.

If anyone has any lines or ideas that have worked please I can use your input!

My thoughts go out to anyone reading this in Madrid who has been affected by the terrorist attacks today. It is sad to think that human beings can be so inhuman to one another.

Ken


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This is how i set up the UEFA Cup- I don't think this is the correct format (I think also 3 or 4 teams qualify into the 1st round from the Intertoto Cup; try www.uefa.com if you want details of this), but some countries who I thought had more teams in Europe, I added. Also note that the English Cup is called the FA Cup, and the English league cup the Casrling Cup

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* UEFA Cup
+ reputation 18
+ international
+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 107-150
+ week 15 17
#+ round 1 "Qualification 1" 1-150
+ exclude "European Champions Cup"
+ draw 14
+ noexclude add 16 rank 31 "European Champions Cup Qualification 3"
+ <17 add 1 cup-winner "Spain Cup Final"
+ <17 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <18 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <19 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <20 add 1 from "Spain"
+ <21 add 1 cup-winner "Italy Cup Final"
+ <21 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <22 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <23 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <24 add 1 from "Italy"
+ <25 add 1 cup-winner "Germany Cup Final"
+ <25 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <26 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <27 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <28 add 1 from "Germany"
+ <29 add 1 cup-winner "France Cup Final"
+ <29 add 1 from "France"
+ <30 add 1 from "France"
+ <31 add 1 from "France"
+ <32 add 1 from "France
# if there are less than 17 teams until this point (there should be currently 16)
# add the most successful team of the FA Cup Final = winner of the FA Cup
# the format is "<cup name> <round name>"
+ <33 add 1 cup-winner "FA Cup Final"
# if there are still less than 17 teams (that means there was no cup winner to add)
# take a team from the league
+ <33 add 1 from "England"
# if also the winner of the league cup should play the cup uncomment:
# + <14 add 1 cup-winner "England League-Cup Final"
+ <34 add 1 from "Carling Cup Final"
+ <34 add 1 from "England"
+ <35 add 1 from "England"
+ <36 add 1 from "England"
+ <37 add 1 cup-winner "Amstel Cup Final"
+ <37 add 1 from "Holland"
+ <38 add 1 from "Holland"
+ <39 add 1 from "Holland"
+ <40 add 1 cup-winner "Russia Cup Final"
+ <40 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <41 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <42 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <43 add 1 from "Russia"
+ <44 add 1 cup-winner "Czech Republic Cup Final"
+ <44 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <45 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <46 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <47 add 1 from "Czech Republic"
+ <48 add 1 cup-winner "Greece Cup Final"
+ <48 add 1 from "Greece"
+ <49 add 1 from "Greece"
+ <50 add 1 from "Greece"
+ <51 add 1 cup-winner "Portugal Cup Final"
+ <51 add 1 from "Portugal"
+ <52 add 1 from "Portugal"
+ <53 add 1 from "Portugal"
+ <54 add 1 cup-winner "Turkey Cup Final"
+ <54 add 1 from "Turkey"
+ <55 add 1 from "Turkey"
+ <56 add 1 from "Turkey"
+ <57 add 1 cup-winner "Ukraine Cup Final"
+ <57 add 1 from "Ukraine"
+ <58 add 1 from "Ukraine"
+ <59 add 1 cup-winner "Norway Cup Final"
+ <59 add 1 from "Norway"
+ <60 add 1 from "Norway"
+ <61 add 1 cup-winner "Switzerland Cup Final"
+ <61 add 1 from "Switzerland"
+ <62 add 1 from "Switzerland"
+ <63 add 1 cup-winner "Scotland Cup Final"
+ <63 add 1 from "Scotland"
+ <64 add 1 from "Scotland"
+ <65 add 1 cup-winner "Austria Cup Final"
+ <65 add 1 from "Austria"
+ <66 add 1 from "Austria"
+ <67 add 1 from "Austria"
+ <68 add 1 cup-winner "Belgium Cup Final"
+ <68 add 1 from "Belgium"
+ <69 add 1 from "Belgium"
+ <70 add 1 from "Belgium"
+ <71 add 1 cup-winner "Denmark Cup Final"
+ <71 add 1 from "Denmark"
+ <72 add 1 from "Denmark"
+ <73 add 1 from "Denmark"
+ <74 add 1 cup-winner "Poland Cup Final"
+ <74 add 1 from "Poland"
+ <75 add 1 from "Poland"
+ <76 add 1 from "Poland"
+ <77 add 1 cup-winner "Romania Cup Final"
+ <77 add 1 from "Romania"
+ <78 add 1 from "Romania"
+ <79 add 1 from "Romania"
+ <80 add 1 cup-winner "Croatia Cup Final"
+ <80 add 1 from "Croatia"
+ <81 add 1 from "Croatia"
+ <82 add 1 from "Croatia"
+ <83 add 1 cup-winner "Sweden Cup Final"
+ <83 add 1 from "Sweden"
+ <84 add 1 from "Sweden"
+ <85 add 1 from "Sweden"
+ <86 add 1 cup-winner "Hungary Cup Final"
+ <86 add 1 from "Hungary"
+ <87 add 1 from "Hungary"
+ <88 add 1 cup-winner "Israel Cup Final"
+ <88 add 1 from "Israel"
+ <89 add 1 from "Israel"
+ <90 add 1 cup-winner "Slovakia Cup Final"
+ <90 add 1 from "Slovakia"
+ <91 add 1 from "Slovakia"
+ <92 add 1 from "Slovakia"
+ <93 add 1 cup-winner "Slovenia Cup Final"
+ <93 add 1 from "Slovenia"
+ <94 add 1 from "Slovenia"
+ <95 add 1 cup-winner "Cyprus Cup Final"
+ <95 add 1 from "Cyprus"
+ <96 add 1 from "Cyprus"
+ <97 add 1 cup-winner "Yugoslavia Cup Final"
+ <97 add 1 from "Yugoslavia"
+ <98 add 1 from "Yugoslavia"
+ <99 add 1 from "Yugoslavia"
+ <100 add 1 cup-winner "Bulgaria Cup Final"
+ <100 add 1 from "Bulgaria"
+ <101 add 1 from "Bulgaria"
+ <102 add 1 cup-winner "Georgia Cup Final"
+ <102 add 1 from "Georgia"
+ <103 add 1 from "Georgia"
+ <104 add 1 cup-winner "Latvia Cup Final"
+ <104 add 1 from "Latvia"
+ <105 add 1 from "Latvia"
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Old 12.03.2004, 18:17
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Default UEFA Cup editing

JZ, thanks for your posting how you have set up your UEFA Cup competition. It definitely makes sense. One thing I noted though is you might want to check to see if any of the teams that qualified for your European Champions Cup (i.e. Champions League) are also added to your UEFA Cup by the use of "noexclude add 16 rank 31" line. I think it should read "noexlcude add 16 rank 33." I have used the latter twice now in tests and never have any Champions League teams added by accident to UEFA Cup. When In used 16 rank 31 I had always two teams from the Champions League also playing in the UEFA Cup.

I am continuing to attempt to get the 8 teams from the group stage of the Champions League added to the UEFA Cup. I have corrected the team selection and tournament layout so that it goes from 96 to 48 to 24 teams, etc as in real life. I will report more as soon as I have more time to run the test. I am trying my idea to separate the UEFA Cup into two phases similar to Andreas' lines for the World Cup qualifications. We'll see how it goes. If it works I'll be happy to share the text lines.

I did discover in my research on the UEFA Cup team selection (Follow the link I posted here yesterday) that the tournament is being revised for the 2004 edition and beyond and it will involve a group stage of 8 groups of 5 teams each, so maybe we should just go ahead and create that now.


Ken
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